Anna (1759-1829) and Agnes (Est1755/1775-?)
Comments by Martha Miller
ANNA SHUCK. The Banta Genealogy page 95 states, "Daniel
Banta married Anna Shuck, widow of Peter Duree, who was
born Nov. 2, 1759 and died June 10, 1829." This Daniel
was a brother of Cornelius Banta who married Magdelena
Shuck Duree, widow of Peter's brother, Henry Duree.
Peter Duree was killed by Indians in March 1781 (Low
Dutch Company history, pages 16-17). These Banta and
Duree connections with the Shucks are circumstantial
evidence that the widow Anna Duree 's maiden name was
Shuck. The Conewago baptisms for Peter and Anna Duree's
two children are inconclusive evidence. Both baptisms
(1775 and 1778) spell her maiden name as "Seever."
Perhaps the most compelling circumstantial evidence is
that Daniel Banta and Anna Duree were married in Lincoln
Co. on the same day (June 5, 1784) that his nephew,
Henry Banta, married Sarah Shuck. Squire R.H. Shuck in
his 1903 memorandum mentioned only two of his aunts (not
three) as married to Bantas -- and it is clear the two
Bantas were Cornelius and Henry (he calls Henry Peter,
but states he lived in Bourbon Co.). If this widow Anna
Duree was a daughter of Andrew Shuck, then she was for
some reason left out of her father's will. The Hannah
Batess named in the will is occasionally interpreted as
Hannah (Anna) Banta, but this ignores her recorded
marriage (see #9 above). There might be some conflict
with Anna Banta's Nov. 2, 1759 birth date and Mathias
Shuck's 1759 birth date. The descendants of Peter Duree
and Daniel Banta are given in the Banta Genealogy under
# 504 and 492.
There really was an Anna Seever.
There was no Anna Shuck in the line of Andrew Shuck.
AGNES SHUCK. According to the Banta Genealogy page 94,
"Cornelius Banta married first, Magdelena Shuck, widow of
Samuel [Henry] Duree; second, her sister Agnes Shuck; and
third, a widow, Nancy Van Nice, who survived him. His
first two wives were sisters of William Shuck, who married
Mary Banta; another sister, Sally, married Henry Banta."
If this Agnes Shuck existed, then she was for some reason
left out of her father's will (Cornelius' first wife was
still living in 1803). Futhermore, I have never noted
any other record of the Cornelius Banta - Agnes Shuck
marriage.
Subsequent Information and Comments
"Anna"
The evidence and concensus seems to be that this was Anna Seever.
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The Banta Genealogy, in another section on page 61, shows the
children of 163 WYNTIE4 BANTA who married Aug. 5, 1774 to Samuel Durie.
These children include the following:
504--PETRUS DURIE,5 b. July 13, 1754, m. Antie Seever.
ISSUE. Baptized at Conewago.
1561--SAMUEL DURIE,6 bp. June 15, 1775.
1562--WYNTIE DURIE,6 bp. Jan. 14, 1778.
Thus, TMB provides the ammunition for his self-contradiction
vis a vis page 95.
- FS-IGI online 05DEC1999 has following records. These are apparently
user-submissions, not extractions of original, primary records.
I have not checked these to determine or verify any underlying
primary source(s).
"Annie SEEVER Birth 2 Nov 1759 New Jersey Marriage Daniel BANTA Batch number
F600440 Sheet: 87 Source Call No. 1553694" This is apparently a
user-submission of some kind, not an original records extraction.
"Anna SEEVER Birth: 2 Nov 1759 Of, Conewago,Adams,Pennsylvania; Marriage:
Petrus Durie; Batch number: 5027594 Sheet 41 Source Call No. 1553870" This
is apparently a user-submission of some kind, not an original records
extraction.
- Those Conewago Baptism records of children are: FS-IGI online 18NOV1999 -
All user-submitted entries.
A bunch of others also show up (I did not copy) which show her as
"Anntie" or "Antie" Seever
(Strange since
PA - Conewago Dutch Reformed Church, Straban Twp., Adams Co., PA
have been extracted in FS Batch C510761 but do not show any surname
Duree/variants. Christening records 1769-1793 Source Call No.: 00200338)
"Samuel Duree Christening: 18 Jun 1775 Conewago, Adams [Co.], Pennsylvania;
Parents: Father: Petrus Durie; Mother: Anna Seever; Batch number: 5027594,
Sheet: 41; Source Call No. 1553870"
"Wyntie Duree Christening: 14 Jan 1778 Conewago, Adams [Co.], Pennsylvania;
Parents: Father: Petrus Durie; Mother: Anna Seever; Batch number: 5027162,
Sheet: 36; Source Call No. 1553840"
"Wyntie Duree Birth: 5 Dec 1777 Of, Salem,Adams,Indiana; Parents: Father:
Petres Durie; Mother: Anna Seever; Batch number: 5027649, Sheet: 11; Source
Call No. 1553870" Since this has the birth place all screwed up, this is in
doubt.
- There is an IGI entry, apparently user-submitted (i.e. not original
record extraction) that shows:
"Petrus DURIE Marriage Anna SEEVER Abt 1774 Of, Conewago, Adams, Pennsylvania
Batch number 5027594 Sheet 41 Source Call No. 1553870"
I have not checked the underlying source. However, since it doesn't
give an exact date, probably not compelling.
- Mathias Shuck was Andrew's first son and in his Revolutionary
War Pension Application papers stated he was born in 1759 in New Jersey
but couldn't remember the month.
- The "Conewago" mentioned is at Adams Co., Pennsylvania
and was the location of a colony of Low Dutch settlers before their move
the Henry/Shelby Co. KY. Adams Co. formed in 1800 from York Co.
- If a child of Peter Duree and Anna was baptized in 1775 and if she
(i.e. "Anna Shuck" as reported by Banta) were born in 1759 (November 2),
that means she would have been married at 15 or 16.
Don't know where he got the date of 2 November 1759.
- There is has been no evidence that Andrew Shuck or his children
were at Conewago.
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Boyle County, Kentucky, Cemetery Records, 1792-1992;
Boyle County [Kentucky] Genealogical Association, Compilers;
Danville, Kentucky; 1992; McDowell Publications, Utica KY, printers.
shows the following buried at Nield Cemetery (page 179).
These may
be related to the Conewago "Seever"'s.
(Boyle was separated from Lincoln
County in 1842; Danville is in Boyle.)
SEVIER, William b ca 1761 d 1825
SEVIER, Elizabeth b 20 FEB 1774 d 04 FEB 1856
wife of William Sevier
SEVIER, Sarah b 20 JAN 1814 d 04 AUG 1847
consort of *Taylor Sevier*
"Agnes"
The "Agnes Shuck" which T.M. Banta refers to is probably
Agnes Durie, whom Cornelius Banta married 10 July 1825 at Washington Co.,
Indiana.
Since Cornelius Banta would have been older (between 65 and 75), it is
presumed Agnes would have been older (50+) and this would have been
a second marriage for her as well.
However, no record of a first marriage has (yet) been found.
- The full passage from T.M. Banta, pg. 95: is:
"491. CORNELIUS5 BANTA married first, Magdalena Shuck, widow of Samuel Duree;
second, her sister Agnes Shuck; and third, a widow, Nancy Van Nice, who
survived him. His first two wifes were sisters of William Shuck, who married
1446 Mary Banta; another sister, Sally, married 1439 Henry Banta. He was in
the Revolutionary War. He owned a large farm covering the present site of
Pleasureville, Henry County, Kentucky, and lived there until his son, Peter
W., removed to Indiana and settled about four miles from Madison, when he
followed him, and lived for a short time near Canaan. He died about 1835."
- The above Madison, Indiana is in Jefferson County;
Canaan, Indiana is in Jefferson County.
Jefferson is one county east of Washington (separated by Scott Co.);
Jefferson borders Ripley, Switzerland, Jennings and Scott Co.
- A marriage record for Cornelius Banta and an Agnes Durie was found
among the following sources:
Indiana Marriages to 1850 online:
"BANTA CORNELIUS DURES AGNES WASHINGTON 7-10-1825"
Ancestry.com Marriages--Indiana to 1850:
"Banta, Cornelius married Duree, Agnes on Jul 10 1825 in Washington County,
Indiana"
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It appears the above was the Agnes TMB was referring to. However,
Cornelius would have been rather old in 1825: at least 60, possibly as old as
75.
I have found nothing to indicate whether Duree was a married name name
of Agnes, but given her likely age to match with Cornelius, that is likely.
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T.M. Banta - Index pg. 387 has no mention of any Agnes Duree/Durie.
This adds weight to the conclusion that the above 1825 marriage of
Agnes Duree was to THIS Cornelius Banta (TMB# 491).
(Still not absolutely, positively proven that this Agnes Duree
could NOT have been Shuck as TMB claimed.)
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T.M. Banta attributes all children to first wife (Magdalena Shuck).
There is, however, a problem with this.
The few birth dates of the children reported by Banta
range from 1772 to 1804 -- a range of 32 years!
Apparently, this has not been questioned.
The 1772 birth is Jacob; the next date reported for the birth of a child
is is 1783.
I am guessing that Jacob's birth probably should be 1782 or 1792.
Also, Jacob's wife Phebe Fallis' birth date is shown by TMB as
4 April 1793; their marriage 1810.
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FS-AF online 15NOV1999 gives Cornelius' death as 15 Dec 1827 @ Canaan, Jefferson Co.,
IN. Does not give any children.
Naturally, no source of the data is shown.
- AIS Census Indices at Ancestry.com show:
- In 1820 a "Cornelius Bonta" in census Jefferson Co. IN pg. 292
- In 1830 a "Cornelius Bontee" in census Washington County IN pg. 326
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